I believe that those farang will understand the capitalism better in a few more years to come.. Do they know that another book writen by Adam Smith “The Theory of Moral Sentiments”? hhuh.. I think they know

Here from Wikipedia:
Haakonssen adds that Theory of Moral Sentiments and Wealth of Nations “only contradict each other if Smithian sympathy is misinterpreted as benevolence and self-interest wrongly is narrowed to selfishness and then taken to be the reductive basis for all human motivation”

So I guess those academics don’t really understand the word “Selfishness” ?

Until a few years ago, the word “selfishness” was not the nature of Thai people, and we do have the word “Kreng Jai” in Thai but farangs don’t even have one.

I don’t really know how Adam Smith would categorize Thaksinomic, but I am sure that he wouldn’t like it to be part of his ideal capitalism.

If you read them (Mandala) for a while you will find that they are based on Capitalism. That’s why they support Thaksin and his puppet, simply because Thaksin have an image of capitalism. Member of Mandala also published or show-off stupidity against the ‘Sufficience economic’.

As far as I have read their articles I found that they keep the dream on outdated liberal democracy. So you can imgine while they support Thaksin, and what Thaksin is trying to do.

To add, do we understand that the new generation of people on the world including those in western earth is understanding ‘democracy’ as ‘A B C D’ not deep to the principle and facts.

It seems that farang Asian studies academics based at foreign universities and foreign journalists overseas tend to be pro-Thaksin while farang university teachers, journalists and businessmen who have worked in Bangkok for many years tend to be squarely anti-Thaksin. He should be delighted that he has successfully divided farangs as well as his own people. Fortunately academics specializing in the narrow field of Asian studies are not at all influential in farang societies but journalists are.

Anyway the tide of overseas farang opinion seems to have turned against Thaksin. When he was first in the UK and bought Man City he was given the benefit of the doubt but after they got to know him better he was regarded as just another very clever foreign crook like his pal, Mohammed Fayed, and Abramovich. The British government very sensibly gave him and his “ex” the boot to avoid all the hassles and cost to the taxpayer they had with Pinochet, the former Chilean dictator, when Spain tried to extradite him from the UK to face murder charges.

I have read many of your comments, and I know that you understand Thailand and our situation very well.

But for the New Mandala, I don’t know much about the site but it was linking by sameskybooks.org which is known to be primary anti-royalist site. So it is quite suspicious to me. When I checked some author’s profile, they are even more suspicious.. Really do not want to think that the site was supported by pro-Thaksin’s money.

Your English is fine, but I also tried my best to adjust some minor mistakes.

1. The police used loudspeaker after finished their funny shots. I have sound clip for this, if anyone wants it? In that early morning, half of people waked up, all others still slept. At Pichai, people enjoyed singing/listening a song with Poojadkuan band. The singing ended when we saw the police were preparing, and five minutes later it was the big series of shots with no alarm.

2. People on Toyata clashing into police is true but that happened after full 2 hours of crazy shots by police. Police fired directly to people, to ambulance, to SOS unit. One thing that no one mentioned is that police was also firing the gun at the Toyota and trying to crash it with a big bus. To note at the Pichai on envening I didn’t see any pale monkey except those from Aljazira.

23 injuries, 1 is reported dead

At 06:15 (the first police crackdown)

“Interviewing with the eyewitnesses particularly the media revealed the following. The police officers, before firing the teargas canisters to disperse the crowd at Pichai T-junction opposite the exit gate of the House of Parliament, did not give any warning to the rallying crowd.”

Same as firing at 16;00 and 19:00

The subcommittee also concluded that the act of police violated human rights and laws,…….and the National Police Office and the government must be responsible for this acion.

Read the report summary here

Read the full report at http://www.AntiThaksin.com

2. Does Nick Nostitz speak Thai? If he does certainly he may understand what he wrote about the police’s warning.

3. Nick Nostitz report does confirm that initially there was no violence by the PAD side and that there was at least a friend of him being a police-undercover hiding among the protesters in PAD side. (by which a conspired situation might have been created )

4. Nick Nostitz admitted that he was not an expert of firearms. How could he concluded that the police may not have other choice to deal with the situation? Has he ever known, apart from the Tien An Men / China (where they used military weapons and tanks) where in the world that the police had dealt with mobs and ended in lost of 2 lives (3 more critical) from police tear gas firing, 400 injured, immediately lost of legs, arms, hands and eyes.

5. Would he know that the police violated the standard guidelines of tackling riots that is to use stepwise application of riot combat measures from soft to harsh, before firing the first tear gas canister.
Perhaps those loud speaker lorries definitely used very effectively to disturb the rally before at Makkawan bridge or strong water cannon from firefighter trucks could have dispersed the crowd.
Later, if failed, rows of police in full riot gears with their shields and clubs could have pushed the protesters away like when they used before with UDD riots 2 years ago in front of the President of the Privy Council house and on August 29, 2008. By using the police troops, they could have pushed the protesters far enough to pave way for the MPs and the PM without a single drop of blood.

6. Would Nick Nostitz know that particular types of firearms are not to be used for city riots. Automatic rifles and .357 pistols were seen and recorded on VDOs and photos at the scene together with border police troops and special execution Arintharaj antiterrorist units which have been trained to kill rather than to deal softly with mobs. Obviously, they fired directly to the crowd. Initially, some shots chopped off big bushes or blew up the piles of car tyres straight away could have warned the police from the very beginning to stop using such dangerously fatal firearms. However, perhaps Nick Nostitz was not at the right spot to have seen the blast effects avulsing people’s limbs or he was so badly affected by the tear gas so much that he did not notice the direction of the barrels of the police rifles aiming directly to the crowd and the executional shots which the police aimed.

7. Nick Nostitz confirmed that apart from “a few” pistols claimed to be shot from PAD, other weapons which PAD might have, were makeshift and not well organized (for self protection against outlaw red UDD because police had several times ignored UDD’s attacks on PAD) are not comparably effective in killing as to those police’s automatic weapons. Would Nick Nostitz know that the police did not arrest any of protesters for such illegal possession of weapons? Were the police ordered just to shoot-to-kill?

8. Nick Nostitz said at the beginning “In this post I will try to describe what I saw, and how I felt about what was happening. I do not have any sense of an overview, and nor do I claim to.” However, he decided differently at the end to conclude with his lack-of-overview and sore-eyes opinions “In this showdown PAD has used lethal force and if the police did not use teargas then this situation would have degenerated to hand-to-hand combat. And that, I am sure, would have cost many people their lives, on both sides.”

How could he make a reasonable conclusion if he does not see the overall on-going escalation of the violence against PAD as carried out by tyrant puppet governments under Thaksin. The police was tactically successful when raided on PAD with hand-to-hand combat with clubs and shields and had torn down PAD’s stage on Rajdamnoen Avenue without firing a single shot before on August 29, 2008.

How could Nick innocently miss Pol.Lt.Col.Thaksin’s tricks leading to the country’s turmoils to fulfill the asylum grant? Even, on that single day Nick missed the point that it was the police who used the unneccessary lethal force first. Therefore, the laws as well as the righteousness are on neither the government nor the police side. That is why the police and PM Somchai have to be continuously twisting the words as already recorded in the media.

http://www.antithaksin.com